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Episode 26 - Zeek at 30: The Measure-First Mindset That Shaped Zeek (Part 2)

Episode 26 - Zeek at 30: The Measure-First Mindset That Shaped Zeek (Part 2)

Corelight DefeNDRs
• 23 min
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Richard Bejtlich sits down with Vern Paxson to celebrate Zeek's 30th anniversary and explore the discipline of measurement that underpins modern network visibility. They discuss the tension between configuration and data mindsets, why there is no such thing as a typical network, and how open source and community funding helped Zeek become a durable research and security resource. Vern reflects on the empirical discipline he brings from physics, the impact of AI tools on Zeek development, and practical guidance for researchers and practitioners navigating rapid change. The conversation also touches on NSF support, the evolution of Zeek as a project, and what motivates long-term work in instrumentation and telemetry.