Episode 11 - The AI Maturity Journey: Data, Agents, and the Shift from Craft to Art

About the episode

Richard Bejtlich talks with Vijit Nair, VP of Product at Corelight, about the evolving "AI Maturity Journey" for modern security teams. Vijit outlines a three-level spectrum of AI adoption, moving from basic human-driven assistance to automated swarms of agents, and eventually toward fully autonomous systems. They discuss why high-quality, unopinionated data remains the essential foundation for building trust in AI and how technologies like the Model Context Protocol (MCP) are turning human language into the primary interface for tool integration. The conversation explores the partnership between Corelight and CrowdStrike Charlotte AI as a real-world example of this connected ecosystem. Finally, Vijit and Richard reflect on how AI is "eating the craft" of security—automating away the mind-numbing manual tasks of a SOC—to allow analysts to focus on the "art" of judgment, creativity, and strategic defense.

Episode transcript

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Richard Bejtlich

Strategist & Author in Residence

Richard is strategist and author in residence at Corelight. He was previously chief security strategist at FireEye, and Mandiant's CSO when FireEye acquired Mandiant in 2013. At General Electric, as director of incident response, he built and led the 40-member GE Computer Incident Response Team (GE-CIRT). Richard began his digital security career as a military intelligence officer in 1997 at the Air Force Computer Emergency Response Team (AFCERT), Air Force Information Warfare Center (AFIWC), and Air Intelligence Agency (AIA). Richard is a graduate of Harvard University and the United States Air Force Academy. His fourth book is 'The Practice of Network Security Monitoring'. He also writes for his blog and Mastodon.